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The poker room in Las Vegas that everyone is talking about is the room at Red Rock, clearly the best and brightest of the new Off-the-Strip rooms. Red Rock is, in fact, on a par with some of the best of the big rooms on Las Vegas Boulevard. It is worth the trip out Charleston Blvd. To see what is arguably the best of the 'outer ring' casinos. Treasure Island is probably the best blackjack casino on the Strip. Most of the time, I suggest trying to find a single deck game, but the six-deck game at Treasure Island has better odds. In fact, even if you play with perfect strategy, the house edge on the single deck game at Treasure Island is almost 1.7%.

The Red Rock Resort is located in the Las Vegas suburb of Summerlin. It is located in the far western edge of the Las Vegas Valley. The casino opened on April 18, 2006. It is owned by Station Casinos, the largest operator in the Las Vegas locals’ gaming market. Red Rock is the flagship of Station Casinos.

Casino at Red Rock

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The casino floor at Red Rock is 87,000 square feet. It features over 3,000 slot machines, 55 table games, two high limit salons, a sports book, bingo hall, and a poker room.

Blackjack is by far the most popular table game at Red Rock. There are 34 blackjack tables. Single, double, and six-deck blackjack games are available. The single deck blackjack game pays 6-5 on a natural blackjack, allows players to double on any two cards, and offers bet limits of $5-$1,000. The double deck blackjack game allows double down on any two cards and double down after splitting with bet limits of $10-$2,000. The six-deck game offers surrender, double down on any two cards, double down after splitting, and resplit aces. Bet limits are $10-$3,000.

All Red Rock blackjack games hit a soft 17. High limit blackjack games offer the same rules with bet limits starting at $25 with max bets of $5,000.

Other table games at Red Rock include Pai Gow Poker, baccarat, High Card Flush, Ultimate Texas Hold’em, roulette, Crazy 4 Poker, Three Card Poker, Mississippi Stud, Let it Ride and craps. Pai Gow Poker and craps have a bet range of $5-$3,000. All other games have $5-$100 bet limits.

Red Rock offers some of the best video poker in the world. There are dozens of machines that return over 100% to players using proper strategy. These games include Full Pay Deuces Wild and 10/7/5 Double Double Bonus. There are also hundreds of video poker machines with full-pay Jacks or Better. All video poker and slot machines at Red Rock use ticket-in/ticket-out technology.

The 100%+ games offer cash back of .075% through the Boarding Pass player’s club. All other games return .3% cash back. There are point multiplier days every week.

The Boarding Pass offers Preferred, Gold, Platinum, President, and Chairman tiers. President and Chairman players receive preferred parking and line passes at all Station Casino properties. Chairman players also receive VIP movie and bowling passes, as well as holiday party invitations.

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The sports book is one of the largest in Las Vegas. The minimum bet is just $5. Players that wager $50 or more will receive two drink tickets. Red Rock also offers a mobile and online sports betting app.

The Red Rock poker room spreads 20 tables. It is by far the busiest locals’ poker room. Players will find 1/2 and 2/5 No Limit Texas Hold’em every day. A 5/10 No Limit Hold’em game is available on Friday nights. Fixed limit is also popular at Red Rock. Many 2/4 and 4/8 Limit Hold’em games are available at most hours of the day. A 4/8 Omaha High/Low game is the main non-hold’em game. There are two daily No Limit Texas Hold’em tournaments.

Hotel at Red Rock

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The Red Rock hotel has 815 rooms. The rooms are considered high end. Rates are over $100 nightly, even on weeknights during the offseason. Weekends can run over $300 a night.

There are two hotel towers at Red Rock. The most common rooms are the Deluxe King and Double Queen. There are 13 different types of suites. These start with the one bedroom suite and go as high as the 180 Suite, which offers two views; one of the mountains to the west and one of the Las Vegas Strip 10 miles to the east.

Dining at Red Rock

One item Red Rock has struggled with is dining options. It often has one or two restaurants closed at any given time. The flagship of the property is T-Bones. It is a high end steakhouse. There is also a 24 hour café, buffet, food court, Yard House, Lucille’s BBQ, and two Starbucks. Red Rock is in the middle of a remodel that will add more dining options.

Nightclubs at Red Rock

Red Rock does not offer any nightclubs. It tried multiple times to launch Cherry. These attempts failed. That space is now dedicated to private functions.

Bars at Red Rock

There are eight bars at Red Rock. Rock’s Lounge is a video poker bar that has a small venue for shows. It offers some of the best bar video poker in Las Vegas. There are often lounge acts on weekend nights where VIP bottle service is available. Lucky Bar is the center bar where video poker is also available. The sports book bar also spreads video poker. Onyx Bar is a piano and cigar bar. There is also a lobby bar, a bar at the bowling alley, as well as one by the pool.

Location

Red Rock is located in the far western edge of the Las Vegas Valley. It is at the Charleston Blvd exit at Highway 215. It is an expensive cab ride from the Strip, airport and downtown. The hotel provides shuttle service to and from many popular venues across the city. Tourists often stay at Red Rock due to its proximity to the Red Rock National Park and its quality gambling.

Features at Red Rock

Like many locals’ casinos, Red Rock offers entertainment amenities. There is a bowling alley and movie theater on the property.

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If you're expecting a 105.22% payback and don't hit your sequential royal that pays 11% of the total payback, you're really playing a 94.25% machine. You'll need that sequential royal to break even.
gordonm888
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If you're expecting a 105.22% payback and don't hit your sequential royal that pays 11% of the total payback, you're really playing a 94.25% machine. You'll need that sequential royal to break even.


This is exactly correct.. There is less than 1 in a million chance (per deal) of making a sequential royal - and 11% of your equity is tied up in this long-shot. If you don't make a reversible royal, then this is a dog of a VP game.
And if you do hit the $40,000 jackpot remember that it will be reported to the IRS and income tax will take a bite out of it. It's difficult to be an AP.
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Wizard
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I returned to the Red Rock today to investigate Alan's game.
Good news: The jackpot is almost twice as much.
Good news: Better base pay tables.
Bad news: Jackpot requires betting 10 coins (as opposed to 5 coins for the games by the Starbucks in the food court)
All things considered, the returns are nearly the same:
Starbucks: 105.22%
Buffet: 105.26%
The expected win per hour (assuming 1,000 bets per hour) is also much better:
Starbucks: $14.33/hr.

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Buffet: $23.63/hr.
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If you're expecting a 105.22% payback and don't hit your sequential royal that pays 11% of the total payback, you're really playing a 94.25% machine. You'll need that sequential royal to break even.


This is not the way any decent career AP looks at expected value. The play has an hourly EV and a variance per hand. Over a very long time frame, the standard deviation of an AP's results is determined only by their accumulated variance. There are a number of tools available to calculate risk of ruin and bankroll requirements. If an AP has an appropriate bankroll such that the the RoR is low, then the only question is is the EV/hour worth it versus other opportunities. The Kelly criteria are another way of deciding the same question. If the max bet is 25 or 50 cents and Kelly says you could risk $2 per hand if that was an option, then your bankroll is adequate to play this game.
There is no basis for removing any of the winning hands from the EV without putting it in context of bankroll calculations. For every single-line VP game that I know of, the most likely result over a session of exactly one hand is a 100% loss. Extending the logic of the comment above, I need a paying hand to get any ROI and I am unlikely to get a paying hand. Therefore, I should eliminate all paying hands from my EV calculation and assign every VP game with a 0% ROI if I intend to only play one hand. This is absurd.
The real question is does the gambler have the bankroll and stomach to undertake the variance offered by the opportunity. I have a cell in my spreadsheet that tracks my estimated variance for VP play. I have an accumulated lifetime variance of 140B dollars2 just from video poker and more from other forms of gambling. If I estimate that the total is really 160B dollars2, the square root of this is $400K. My lifetime standard deviation is roughly +/- $400K. If I added one SRF chase, it would be a drop in the ocean compared to my lifetime variance -- whether or not I hit the SRF.
Even if you don't have great records, you can easily estimate how much variance you incur in a year doing what you already do. You can see how this play stacks up in comparison to your other gambling. Variance is simply additive. Over the long term, a million dollars2 variance from chasing a SRF progressive is the same as a a million dollars2 of variance from blackjack. The variance of the game in the OP is about 18K.
100xOdds

I returned to the Red Rock today to investigate Alan's game.
Good news: The jackpot is almost twice as much.
Good news: Better base pay tables.
Bad news: Jackpot requires betting 10 coins (as opposed to 5 coins for the games by the Starbucks in the food court)
All things considered, the returns are nearly the same:
Starbucks: 105.22%
Buffet: 105.26%
The expected win per hour (assuming 1,000 bets per hour) is also much better:
Starbucks: $14.33/hr.
Buffet: $23.63/hr.

you might want to clarify how come the buffet game is so much more per hr profit.
ie: that the starbucks game is .25 and the buffet one is nickels.
and what are pay tables offered at the buffet ones?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
billryan

This is not the way any decent career AP looks at expected value. The play has an hourly EV and a variance per hand. Over a very long time frame, the standard deviation of an AP's results is determined only by their accumulated variance. There are a number of tools available to calculate risk of ruin and bankroll requirements. If an AP has an appropriate bankroll such that the the RoR is low, then the only question is is the EV/hour worth it versus other opportunities. The Kelly criteria are another way of deciding the same question. If the max bet is 25 or 50 cents and Kelly says you could risk $2 per hand if that was an option, then your bankroll is adequate to play this game.
There is no basis for removing any of the winning hands from the EV without putting it in context of bankroll calculations. For every single-line VP game that I know of, the most likely result over a session of exactly one hand is a 100% loss. Extending the logic of the comment above, I need a paying hand to get any ROI and I am unlikely to get a paying hand. Therefore, I should eliminate all paying hands from my EV calculation and assign every VP game with a 0% ROI if I intend to only play one hand. This is absurd.
The real question is does the gambler have the bankroll and stomach to undertake the variance offered by the opportunity. I have a cell in my spreadsheet that tracks my estimated variance for VP play. I have an accumulated lifetime variance of 140B dollars2 just from video poker and more from other forms of gambling. If I estimate that the total is really 160B dollars2, the square root of this is $400K. My lifetime standard deviation is roughly +/- $400K. If I added one SRF chase, it would be a drop in the ocean compared to my lifetime variance -- whether or not I hit the SRF.
Even if you don't have great records, you can easily estimate how much variance you incur in a year doing what you already do. You can see how this play stacks up in comparison to your other gambling. Variance is simply additive. Over the long term, a million dollars2 variance from chasing a SRF progressive is the same as a a million dollars2 of variance from blackjack. The variance of the game in the OP is about 18K.


Would you say Powerball is a positive EV if you factor in the one in a billion chance of hitting the top prize?
The game in question will return 94% to the thousands of people who play it and 105% to the one person who basically gets hit by lightning. To say that the game has an Ev of $ten dollars or more an hour seems very wrong as every person who plays it, with one exception is playing a very poor game.
If a casino had a blackjack game where the dealer won all ties, but it offered a million-dollar prize if every player at the table got a suited BJ, and the dealer got a BJ in spades, would you call that game a +EV?

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When you start including once in a lifetime events into a games ev, the formula seems flawed.DogHand
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<snip>If a casino had a blackjack game where the dealer won all ties, but it offered a million-dollar prize if every player at the table got a suited BJ, and the dealer got a BJ in spades, would you call that game a +EV?<snip>


YES!..... If I could play heads-up ;-)
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you might want to clarify how come the buffet game is so much more per hr profit.
ie: that the starbucks game is .25 and the buffet one is nickels.
and what are pay tables offered at the buffet ones?


It's mainly because you can bet twice as much at the buffet games. The pay tables are stated in my article.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
rdw4potus

It's mainly because you can bet twice as much at the buffet games. The pay tables are stated in my article.


Isn't the buffet 60% less than the Starbucks game? 10 nickels versus 5 quarters?
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No one is arguing that >1.00 EV isn't refreshing and exciting. We are pointing that with 13% of equity coming from Royal Flushes and 11% of equity coming from a 'once in 700 billion' chance, that this game has unusually high variance and high risk of ruin, given a finite bankroll.
And again, there will be no escaping the Tax Man on a $40K or $80K jackpot. It is non-trivial to claim gambling losses to offset a big win, and with the standard deduction at about $20k it may be hard to avoid the tax man altogether. It may still be positive EV after taxes but these are factors worth mentioning.
So many better men, a few of them friends, were dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things lived on, and so did I.